Parents mostly talk to their children, not with them.
When the children are teenagers, the teenagers rebel and want to be heard. The parent wants to be heard even more so they try to dominate the teenager.
Not being heard causes the teenager to find a place where they are heard. They join a union, a union of peers. Unions are spawned through people not being heard.
The union of teenagers has but one benefit, they feel heard.
Parents lament their children relying on the advice of their union over their own.
Parents, just listen and the need for your teenager retaining their membership to the union will diminish.
It ought not need saying, but listening must be followed by adaptation.
From my guide Crazy Horse through Ian Rogers Director Sphinx Spiritual